Reward Tiers

[Boolan]

Hi!
Just donated to this game. I did the Patron Package in the Project Gorgon Shop.

This game is amazing and I firmly support what the developers are doing! Looking forward to getting the game via steam when it comes out!

A question and a sort of "poll"

Question:
When it comes out on Steam will we retain our "accounts" as in our characters?

Poll:
Did you contribute to the development of this game?

Happy hunting to all!

[Greyfyn]

You can already connect your steam account to your Gorgon account here on the forum. When the early release to steam happens (most recently slated for March 2017), nothing about your character will change. When the full steam release occurs (now targeted for December 2017), there will be a partial wipe, which will clear everything but your character's skills. So we get to keep our skills--that's good.

As for the poll--there are lists of who contributed on both the kickstarter and the indiegogo. And the forum itself is tracking the most recent contributions.

[alleryn]

When the full steam release occurs (now targeted for December 2017), there will be a partial wipe, which will clear everything but your character's skills. So we get to keep our skills--that's good.

As far as i know, nothing is finalized regarding the wipe, though Greyfin's scenario is the most likely one.

http://forum.projectgorgon.com/faq.p..._characterwipe

[Hood]

As far as i know, nothing is finalized regarding the wipe, though Greyfin's scenario is the most likely one.

http://forum.projectgorgon.com/faq.p..._characterwipe

You're right. but this official word is as close to a finalization as we'll probably get. Granted, anything can change at any time. so like I said, as close to a finalization as we'll probably get.

[alleryn]

You're right. but this official word is as close to a finalization as we'll probably get. Granted, anything can change at any time. so like I said, as close to a finalization as we'll probably get.

Sure. I just think it's best to make sure people know that nothing is final. I simply want to avoid potential frustration if something changes (insofar as is possible).

I hear a lot of "coins and items and maybe favor will be wiped and nothing else will" being bandied about in global whenever the wipe topic comes up, and i'm concerned about false expectations should some skills/abilites be wiped or something. Probably not a major concern; i just hope people are prepared for possible contingencies.

[Mitra]

My wife and I are ready to make donations. It'd be nice to have a rough idea what a house would be like, if it'll have storage (assume so, about how much), travel options to get there, etc. Also, regarding VIP access, would like to have some idea what we're getting 1 year vs 5 year in the two $100/$500 packages. I guess what I mean there is - about what might we expect VIP access to cost once the game goes live? I realize these details may be real murky yet, but we've been teetering on this decision for quite some time and a little more information would help.

[Easylivin]

As far as i know, nothing is finalized regarding the wipe, though Greyfin's scenario is the most likely one.

http://forum.projectgorgon.com/faq.p..._characterwipe

Here you go, looks finalized enough for me. Maybe we can stop talking about it and trying to make it happen. Unless you too are interested in have your character wiped along with Umber's and Peasant's?

There will not be a full player wipe at launch.

The characters you are building now in alpha will not be completely wiped out at launch. We will be wiping some aspects of your characters, but not everything. In particular, we will be wiping items and money, but we won't be wiping most skill levels.

Why not wipe everything? Because alpha testing is hard. Putting a lot of hours into an alpha game that can and does change all the time is stressful! You deserve some reward for dealing with all the bullshit involved in alpha development.

So why wipe items? After years of alpha, there will be some players with billions in cash and assets, some of which came from bugs that slipped past us. That makes it very hard for a fun player-to-player economy to develop. That’s always a tough challenge, in fact, but wiping items and money is a basic foundational step that will give the economy a fighting chance at launch.

And remember: this is at official launch, which is still a ways away. We aren't even in beta yet!

[alleryn]

Here you go, looks finalized enough for me. Maybe we can stop talking about it and trying to make it happen. Unless you too are interested in have your character wiped along with Umbra's and Peasant's?

Pasting in some box with large font words isn't really sourcing anything. You can find the link to the quote at http://projectgorgon.com/blog/entry/...-info-round-up

And all it says is "we won't be wiping most skill levels". That's far different then the "you'll get to keep all skills" that gets thrown around willy-nilly in global.

Also, for a person named "Easylivin" you sure do seem quick to take a hostile tone. If this really is a cooperative game, as Hood suggests, maybe you are in the wrong place.

[Khaylara]

"Why not wipe everything? Because alpha testing is hard. Putting a lot of hours into an alpha game that can and does change all the time is stressful! You deserve some reward for dealing with all the bullshit involved in alpha development."



Okay, old debate. I underlined the essential (for this topic) part of Citan's statement, maybe if it's colorful it hits home.

He literally means A LOT of hours...some of us have been playing for years and he wants to reward THAT. Anyone who wants a wipe and has been around for few months would not understand that. It's YEARS not MONTHS we put into this game, many times w/o any reward, we saw our skills and gear nerfed, wiped, broken (and we stayed with this game) we helped with testing, bugs reporting, constant feedback, hundreds of game hours etc. If anyone thinks that's unfair too bad. As Easy said if someone feels that after 1-3 months they have an unfair advantage I'm sure that petitioning to support would solve that. This is not a personal attack but with every new wave of players we get this same ol' debate about wipe again.
I don't know if Citan needs to change his mind based on opinions from players that might not stick around anyway. Let's revisit the topic in a year, most will sing a different tune then.

[Tsugumori]

On from what @Greyfyn said:

Anyone who backs the game will receive a steam key when the steam release nears, which as Grey said will be roughly Dec. 2017.

As for the poll, I backed the game during the last kickstarter after playing PG for a week, definitely a wise move and I tip my hate to my past self.