Property Extract Error

[Figger1]

I was trying to extract a property from a helm. I had all the materials and skill to do it. The property was "Positive attitude add +4 sprint ( out of combat )" and it was on a helm and i used 20 medium helm contraptions and a tourmaline gem and got the message that there was no psychology property on the item to be extracted and it destroyed the item. It isnt easy to find a certain property on a certain item, it took a week or so to find it and now it is gone.

The exact error message was "Fiery goblin cap of calefaction did not have any powers that could be extracted with tourmaline! The item was lost.

[Gruffon]

That mod in particular is a level 30 mod; you'll need to use small contraptions to extract it using the 1-30 extract augment recipe. A couple of mods are a little tricky like that. They'll show up on equipment at level 1-30 or 31-60 and don't scale according to level, so you'll see those "low-level" mods show up on the highest-level equipment, and the correct tier of contraption will need to be used accordingly

[alleryn]

In order to find the level of a mod, use the wiki.

For example, for this mod go to http://wiki.projectgorgon.com/wiki/P...easure_Effects (or go to the Psychology page and expand the Treasure Effects table, but don't go to the 'By Slot' or 'By Ability' pages -- those don't have level info).

Next, find the treasure effect you are after. In this case use the search function on your browser to search for "Postive Attitude boosts" for example, to find the mod "Positive Attitude boosts your Out-of-Combat Sprint Speed by 4 for 60 seconds". This will show only the max-level mod (here level 30), and the option to Expand on the right which will show lower level, lower magnitude mods as well (in this particular case there is only one version of the mod, but in most cases various versions with different levels will be listed).

[Figger1]

When I did it, I right clicked the helm and it automatically brought up the 31-60 extraction recipe, the positive attitude property was level 30 but it also had some level 40 properties of another skill. It should have fixed itself somehow to do the extraction. I did what it required me to do when I right clicked the helm and chose 'extract power'

[Silkt]

In order to find the level of a mod, use the wiki.

For example, for this mod go to http://wiki.projectgorgon.com/wiki/P...easure_Effects (or go to the Psychology page and expand the Treasure Effects table, but don't go to the 'By Slot' or 'By Ability' pages -- those don't have level info).

Next, find the treasure effect you are after. In this case use the search function on your browser to search for "Postive Attitude boosts" for example, to find the mod "Positive Attitude boosts your Out-of-Combat Sprint Speed by 4 for 60 seconds". This will show only the max-level mod (here level 30), and the option to Expand on the right which will show lower level, lower magnitude mods as well (in this particular case there is only one version of the mod, but in most cases various versions with different levels will be listed).

Having to go to an out of game resource to prevent losing an item is extremely poor design, at worse until full polish release it should of just been a recipe fail " please submit feedback" like you get trying to DE a lvl 35 item with a lvl 30 skill, it should never result in item lost.

[Coglin]

. Having to go to an out of game resource to prevent losing an item is extremely poor design

I am curious, how did you determine it was a design choice and not a bug?

[Niph]

When you right-click the item to bring the recipe up, the game has no way to tell if you want to extract a high-level mod or the low-level one.

Maybe the solution is to have several tiers of this sprint mod, to avoid the problem.

[Figger1]

or have it not delete the item when a problem like this happens.

[Figger1]

I found another helm that had psychology level 50 with "Positive attitude add +4 sprint ( out of combat )" but it had 2 psych stats and of course it extracted the stat I didnt want.

[Heccie]

On the positive side, once you know this little foible it means that past Lvl 30 if you ever get that modification on an item you can 100% extract it no matter what, by using small contraptions. You never have to go through the lottery of wondering which augment you will get back. It also means if you want the augment other than the run speed on a red/purple item you can guarantee getting it by using medium/large contraptions.

Swings and Roundabouts