Welcome to Project: Gorgon!


Project: Gorgon is a 3D fantasy MMORPG (massively-multiplayer online role-playing game) that features an immersive experience that allows the player to forge their own path through exploration and discovery. We won't be guiding you through a world on rails, and as a result there are many hidden secrets awaiting discovery. Project: Gorgon also features an ambitious skill based leveling system that bucks the current trend of pre-determined classes, thus allowing the player to combine skills in order to create a truly unique playing experience.

The Project: Gorgon development team is led by industry veteran Eric Heimburg. Eric has over a decade of experience working as a Senior and Lead Engineer, Developer, Designer and Producer on successful games such as Asheron’s Call 1 and 2, Star Trek Online and other successful Massively Multiplayer Online Games.



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    Demo First Impressions and Suggestions

    Hello! I got the demo last night and gave it a spin for a few hours. Here are some comments and suggestions.

    Startup
    The game client started in windowed mode, with a teeny tiny window. I immediately went to the menu to change to fullscreen, but the graphics didn't fill the screen, leaving vertical black bars on either side. The game client isn't detecting my screen resolution. I later found settings once I had created a character—these options should be available at the login/character creation screen. I didn't see a button or anything to open settings on the character creation screen.

    Character Creation
    On to character creation, where the game really makes its first impression on the player. What I saw was a character preview model, nearly half covered by the character info pane. The cursor changed to a rotate icon when over the right half of that info pane, and clicking or dragging moved the obscured character preview rather than the visible controls. This is not a good first impression, and may be turning away potential players.

    I was afraid to create a character, because I couldn't tell if I would be able to delete it or create a new character if I screwed up. The character select pane is not displayed unless you have a character. I think it should always be displayed, so that the player can see their affordances for managing characters right away. If there are no characters, the screen should load as if the create character button had been clicked, of course.

    Once I had created a character (and logged out to the character screen), the create character button was disabled. I presume this was because I was playing the demo, but a tooltip giving the reason would be nice. Also, there is an 'X' button to the right of my characters name. Presumably a delete button? But there is already a Delete Character button under the preview model. Does clicking either prompt for confirmation? I don't know! On the Macintosh, buttons and menus that prompt for more info have an ellipsis after the title; that would be good to have here.

    I understand the development focus is on gameplay right now, but in addition to the above, the character graphics need some help for a good first impression. I probably don't need to go into detail about this. I will say that I hope this game includes options for character height and girth. I get tired of playing bodybuilders and supermodels. Let me be slender or chubby.

    Basic User Interface: Thumbs Up!
    Upon creating my character, the rather abrubt cutscene dumped me onto a pretty nicely rendered island, with foes to battle right away and an easy to grasp interface. There was just enough help as I gained new abilities so that I knew what to do. Project Gorgon is clearly off to a good start in this regard! I liked having labeled buttons on objects and corpses so I could know what interacting with them would do.

    The various resource bars are nicely distinguished and easy to see. My one critique would be to make them all the same length. I don't want to be calculating relative percentages based on varying max bar lengths. I turned off the resource orbs on the bottom right away as they took up a lot of space.

    The minimap was ok, it did its job. Call me silly but I prefer a round minimap. I found that I wanted to put marks and notes on the minimap as in some other games and was frustrated that I couldn't. Much later I found the world map, which does allow me to put (private) labeled markers. That's very good, especially the way this game doesn't coddle the player with regard to quests and puzzles.

    The chat panel could use some options for transparency & colors. Even though it's the bottom corner of the screen, I like to keep my chat big and see-through. I also got very confused trying to do open chat after someone messaged me privately. The demo doesn't allow access to the global channel, but the demo channel is hidden in a submenu.

    Action bars do their jobs. I don't understand why they only have 6 buttons each, but I know games like Guild Wars made deliberate design decisions about limited access to actions so that may be the case here. I like having the different bars use Control and Shift keys. (Hey, we also have an Alt key... ) I haven't yet tried to configure my bars but I understand that's possible.

    Graphics, Animation, Camera
    The graphics and animations are pretty good for an alpha release, and I understand those are going to change a lot, so no more comment than that.

    The camera control needs work. I found the camera very difficult to control with the mouse, sometimes barely moving, sometimes spinning wildly with a tiny movement of the mouse. I actually got killed a couple times because of that. I did mess with some of the options with regard to camera control, and will see if that's something I can adjust rather than an actual bug (although it's an actual bug that the game doesn't pick good defaults, in my opinion).

    Gameplay & "Story"
    I am not a fan of the amnesiac trope in RPGs.

    Spoiler Spoiler:

    I emphasize this because it seems to be a prominent and intentional part of the new-character experience.

    I loved having quests appear organically, without giant glowing exclamation points or pulsing dots on my (mini) map telling me where to go to get my lollipop. I had to take notes, I had to keep things in mind, it was great. Knowing I could put notes on the world map would have saved me some time, but other than that I was shown enough about the notebook and such that I could keep my own records.

    As I noted in a separate post, I would like to be able to select and copy text in character dialogs to paste into my notebook.

    Taming a rat was fun, and it looks like I'll be taming more creatures later. It also looks like taming pets is strictly temporary; I like that! There were some pathing issues with the pet rat but that's a problem every MMO I've played has had with pets. The UI for managing the pet initially appeared half-under the minimap (because I had enlarged it). A different default location, or maybe layering over the minimap, would be good.

    Combat labels such as "Vulnerable" and "Rage attack" weren't clear to me. Was I vulnerable or was my target? Was I rage attacking, was it an opportunity to rage attack by pressing a particular button, was my target rage attacking? I didn't know. There was also an icon of a red circle with a sword that was unclear. I am sure I will learn about these by asking in-game, but I figured I would point it out here. Maybe there are cues such as color or font that could distinguish things I am doing, or can do, or that the target is doing.

    Reporting Bugs
    The bug reporting interface is pretty rudimentary. There is no screenshot capability: I should be able to click a button to do a screen grab (minus the bug reporting window itself), or upload a file from my computer.

    I don't know how much info about my computer is automatically recorded.

    A template on what information is desired would be most helpful. As a former software engineer, I know all about bug reports that don't provide enough information to even begin a diagnosis, so users need all the help they can get to provide good info.

    Conclusion
    That seems more than long enough for a first review, assuming these are even wanted. I enjoyed my first few hours in the game, and look forward to exploring more and meeting people during more populated times of the day.
    Last edited by Corax; 02-06-2019 at 03:40 PM. Reason: fixed a typo

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    Bug reporting template

    BUG TYPE: Crash/Hang * Gameplay * Functionality * Collision * Camera * Graphics * Text * Sound

    SEVERITY: Critical * Major * Minor * Exploit

    SUMMARY:

    STEPS TO REPRODUCE:

    UNINTENDED RESULT:

    EXPECTED RESULT:

    ADDITIONAL INFO:
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    Nice writeup on the demo experience. It's been a long time since I was a new player, so I don't have much to add there, but picking on a few things in your post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Corax View Post
    Also, there is an 'X' button to the right of my characters name. Presumable a delete button? But there is already a Delete Character button under the preview model. Does clicking either prompt for confirmation? I don't know! On the Macintosh, buttons and menus that prompt for more info have an ellipsis after the title; that would be good to have here.
    Yes, there is a confirmation prompt. Which is fortunate because I've clicked on the Delete button accidentally multiple times so far...

    I understand the development focus is on gameplay right now, but in addition to the above, the character graphics need some help for a good first impression. I probably don't need to go into detail about this. I will say that I hope this game includes options for character height and girth. I get tired of playing bodybuilders and supermodels. Let me be slender or chubby.
    Now that has potential - finally my chance to be a fat cat. I'm definitely seconding that suggestion.

    Taming a rat was fun, and it looks like I'll be taming more creatures later. It also looks like taming pets is strictly temporary; I like that!
    Most pets are actually permanent. Come to think of, it would be interesting if there were other temporary pet abilities similar to Tame Rat.

    Combat labels such as "Vulnerable" and "Rage attack" weren't clear to me. Was I vulnerable or was my target? Was I rage attacking, was it an opportunity to rage attack by pressing a particular button, was my target rage attacking? I didn't know. There was also an icon of a red circle with a sword that was unclear.
    When you look at the opponent you are fighting, you will see a purple bar at the bottom showing their current rage. Rage increases as they take and deal damage, and once the rage bar is full, they can use their special rage attack. This is something only non-players have.

    "Vulnerable" is a bit more tricky. Again, it's something that happens to NPCs, not players. Certain player attacks will do more damage against a vulnerable target ( the ability will mention in the tooltip if it does. Regular attacks will still just do standard damage.). A mob becoming vulnerable happens mostly randomly although there are a few specific player attacks that can trigger a vulnerability. I believe the sword icon also indicates that the mob below it has just become vulnerable. There was a discussion a few months back on vulnerability - I'm not sure if there will be any eventual changes to the mechanic. There are some people that mostly just ignore it now, myself included.

    The bug reporting interface is pretty rudimentary. There is no screenshot capability: I should be able to click a button to do a screen grab (minus the bug reporting window itself), or upload a file from my computer.

    I don't know how much info about my computer is automatically recorded.

    A template on what information is desired would be most helpful. As a former software engineer, I know all about bug reports that don't provide enough information to even begin a diagnosis, so users need all the help they can get to provide good info.
    The current bug reporting interface allows you to attach an item to a bug report, which is the loveliest of all lovely features. But yes, no file upload or screenshot. If you have something that needs that, you'd need to email it to support@projectgorgon.com .

    When you submit a report in game, it records your account, character name and current location. So, it's very useful to report pathing issues and such. I'm not sure what computer-specific information gets submitted.

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    I did find the first animal trainer so now I know there are permanent pets. I'm looking forward to that, too.

    Thanks for the info on rage and vulnerability. I did see the purple bar, and now I have a good idea how it works! It's kinda like the opposite of break bars in Guild Wars 2. And now I need to go over my skill descriptions again.

    I will add my computer config to my bug reporting template just in case, but it would be good for all players to know whether that's collected automatically for them.

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    I am not trying to attack you OP, but a few of your assumptions were completely wrong. In the spirit of constructive criticism, this is 2019. Wiki's are a thing. Google is a thing. Google the wiki. I am on day 5 in game now. I googled the wiki and learned a great deal about the game before purchasing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    I am not trying to attack you OP, but a few of your assumptions were completely wrong. In the spirit of constructive criticism, this is 2019. Wiki's are a thing. Google is a thing. Google the wiki. I am on day 5 in game now. I googled the wiki and learned a great deal about the game before purchasing.
    Yes, for better and for worse, wikis are a thing. They're great for looking up particular things, but more often than not they serve as a poor replacement for a proper beginner's manual. Maybe that's just my experience as a technical writer speaking; believe me I know that nobody reads manuals (except for technical writers ).

    I don't know which of my assumptions you think are wrong, but most of my writeup was impressions of gameplay. Reviewing what I wrote, it seems my major complaints were about combat UI, and I won't be typing /wiki vulnerable while getting pounded on by a tiger.

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    I'm a bit late here, but just wanted to add that some players may choose not to use the Wiki to avoid spoilers. ( I'm currently trying that with a single player game and it's hard to avoid looking up everything but also makes my game much more enjoyable.) The Gorgon Wiki is really nice and tries to avoid outright spoilers but it's still not the same as discovering everything for yourself.

    Plus, some players may just be trying out the game and may not want to bother looking up things for a game they are still on the fence about.

    So, I do think things should be explained in the game as much as possible. I think in a lot of cases they are (e.g. rage) and it may just take a new player a bit to find out what's happening. In other cases, the in-game explanations could use some work, and I think comments from new players can be really helpful in finding out what the common stumbling blocks are.

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    Just quick note about wiki - if you type '/wiki subject' it will open wiki page about 'subject' in your browser.

    Also - nice write up about demo experience. As much as I woudl love to test it myself, after nearly 4 years of palyign i'm no longer a newbie, and have very different perspective on certain things. So again, thank you for sharing your opinion.

    Oh, about rage/vulnerable stat. It was already explained pretty well, I just add few things. Red swprd icon above monster head indicate sits in 'vulnerable' state, rage attacks not alwasy consume all rage bar (and yes, only mobs have rage attacks), and they effects vary - it cna be more dmage, strong cc, damge inmunity, heal, and so on. Some mobs ahve multiple rage attacks,a dn will use them at random.

    If you see grey exclamation mark above monster head, it means it shouted for help, so more mobs will be attacking you. Mobs shout for help only when attacked, so you can body-pull them away from they friends. From my experience, range of 'shout' is about 20-25 meters (you can check your distance to mob my selectign it, and holding 'alt' button)

    Anywya, I'll hope you will have great time with PG.



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