If these said people were really concerned at what their children heard then they would play with headphones. I am fairly certain that the dialogue in PG is the least of a parents worries when if comes to language their child is hearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by chill
I posted something about this few times and I was attacked. Although the post is made in a very respectful and polite manner, what it implies is "If you didn't insist on this feature I dislike I would've paid for your game. If you keep the dialogues the way they are you lost me as a customer". Some made similar "threats" when it came to multiboxing. Why would a game developer change anything based on basically monetary blackmail?Quote:
Originally Posted by forphase1
This was brought up by the OP too, kids. Sorry but it is not the media's fault if you guys do not establish boundaries for your children really. Would you let them watch porn over your shoulder? Would you let them watch a horror at 6-8 years of age? I bet the answer is a big fat no. Would you contact pornhub to ask them to remove the adult content cause your kids might see it? Okay I'm giving an extreme example but it really applies here. Why should Citan change his (crude sometimes but funny overall) dialogues because you cannot explain your very young children "When daddy plays it's daddy time, it's for grownups. You can do this when you are a bit older" and send them to another room. That's not too hard and it won't traumatize your children.
Although I worked as a middle school teacher for a few years I will not try to teach you parenting any further but you guys should stop trying to police language in NPCs dialogues. It's ridiculous.
And there ya go! Khaylara see I need to take a note from your playbook and just 'say it' because I was trying to be too nice I ended up talking myself around into a pretzel :D
I think that while it is good to have dialogue the dialogue sort of stops when people start to say "Welp, would have bought your game but not now !!'
I did not think about it but that is probably the reason it got some resistance is the whole 'people won't play it' rather than "does this make the game better, if not what would be a good alternative? etc.
But one thing that caught my very peaked and now committed interest in the game was things like Blanche and Rita, just sayin.
This feedback is essentially the type of question a developer should be asking for when a customer does not pay or continue a service...'Why are you leaving?'Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaylara
You ask why would a developer change anything based on "monetary blackmail"... in order to keep that person as a customer and make more money :p Another reason would be that feedback could make the game better, even if the developer may not agree with it. I've accepted Silvonis's reply above, but it is still a ding against PG for my playstyle and could make it easier to leave. Again, that's just my feedback.
You're right, that is a bit of an extreme example and I wouldn't put PG in the same bucket as porn and a horror movie. The difference being that with changes to dialogue, then it would not be as big of a concern. I do put in safe guards to not playing when they're awake or interacting less with NPCs, but again, it is a drawback to the game IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khaylara
Good deal, I wasn't looking for parenting advice from the PG forums :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Khaylara
@Yertle - you don't see how out of place and ridiculous this sounds? Until now (Including the old forums) I saw 3 or 4 people complaining about dialogues. What you people are posting is literally "Because I can't manage my kids YOU MUST put filters or change the dialogues in a game that is enjoyed as it is by few hundred adults. Or else I won't buy it".
Hmmmm let's see (pretending I'm Citan cause...roleplay) "Should I please these 4 people so they buy my game or keep doing what I'm doing and have about 1,000 players? Tough decision..." (probably more by now, I'm just using an estimate from ks and indiegogo)
I'm glad you didn't seek parenting advice on the P:G forum. On the other hand I wasn't the one raising concerns about my kids watching over my shoulder while I play. Most of us don't have that problem as far as I've noticed so again, look at this from a third person perspective and see how it sounds.
The same goes for any other game feature that one of us happens to dislike. Post that you dislike it but don't make demands like "Remove Sexual References and Lower Profanity of NPCs"- the title of this thread.
I've been playing PG on/off since 2014 and I kicked a fuss once because due to their datacenter the Oceanic region players were completely excluded from the game for over a month (since we weren't able to play with 2k ping). Now please compare being completely locked out of a game you invested time in for over a year with "my kids watch Rita and Blanche over my shoulder", that should create the above mentioned perspective.
edit, RPing again "Too bad I have 19817365 reports about client crashes and other shizz, I better start rewriting dialogues and moderating the game chat cause PRIORITIES!" (Yes I know I'm being over the top, hoping I'll drive my point home though)
I think we've discussed this pretty much to death now. We're going in circles, and losing the civility we want to keep in feedback threads.
Thank you, @Yertle, for bringing up this feedback and letting us see a lot of discussion on the topic. Even when we choose not to change things, it's good to know how those choices influence your opinion of the game.