Suggestion: Cold resistance "augments" for existing gear

[Tagamogi]

The problem I'm trying to solve is that by the time players are ready to venture into Kur or Gazluk, they are usually very attached to their existing gear and unwilling to trade it out for cold resistance gear, even if they have the crafting skills required to make that gear.

So, I think we could use cold resistance augment-type recipes that use up gear enhancement points and allow players to add cold resistance to their existing gear. We could have fur padding from leatherworking, wool insulation from tailoring, snow hare spirit from shamanic infusion, plain old cold resistance from augmentation,...

Some additional recipes to remove existing augments/armor patches/other things using up enhancement points might also be needed, so players can replace their existing enhancements with cold resistance if they choose. People might still not like giving up their enhancement points to get cold resistance, but I think they might be more open to to that than getting completely new gear, especially if the cold resistance aug can be removed later if they decide they no longer need it and want to use something else.

Ideally, I think the cold resistance augs would require minimal crafting skills, just so that new players will stop feeling intimidated by Kur. Having tradeable cold resistance augs might also be nice. This could potentially set up a consumable market where some players craft cold resistance augs that can be applied by anyone.

[Asashoryu]

It is unfortunate that progression requires going through Kur and Gazluk. As a general rule of thumb, zones with penalties simply for being in them should be presented as parallel (and more rewarding) paths of progression instead of as the only available paths of progression.

[Crissa]

I haven't had any problems in the desert, but the cold... I dunno, it's just not worth looking for cold gear because once you have it, well, you've already been in the cold places a long time.

[kazeandi]

The whole concept of environmental damage doesn't provide fun for me. Ilmari/Rahu, meh, I'll just die and run back to where I left off. No big deal, so why even have dehydration?
In Kur/Gazluk, all the content outdoor is lost on me. I sometimes grab some Wolfsbane and Tundra Lichen when I have a real need for them, but for longer sessions, I hunt in dungeons. I was very disappointed when I was clad in full winter gear in Kur, yet the cold dot still ticked down. Gazluk, I only fly there. I simply can't do outdoor adventuring like in Eltibule, which is a damn shame, because it's easily the prettiest and most atmospheric zone in the game, with it's high mountains, snow covered houses and snow falling.

It should have been a speed debuff, both skill speed and run speed, with the skill speed being countered by winter gear and the slow run speed (making fleeing impossible) and even disabled flying being part of the zone.

If winter gear is needed in Kur/Gaz, why don't you sweat like crazy in it in the desert? Make it fizzle a percentage of your skills/spells there.

But remove the Dot. It's not fun and not creative and completely shuts down my desire to explore.

[Asashoryu]

I haven't had any problems in the desert, but the cold... I dunno, it's just not worth looking for cold gear because once you have it, well, you've already been in the cold places a long time.

I guess I can agree with that. The desert isn't nearly as bad as the cold areas and probably shouldn't be compared.

Cold areas, however, are just areas to avoid at best and simply run through at worst. They're neither challenging, nor fun... just annoying. Ultimately, I ended up shelving Project Gorgon for the time being and chose to play other games instead.

[Crissa]

Well, I love the fire mechanic, honestly. Reminds me of the snowy plain from FF7. It's just I have so much trouble getting gear in the first place, getting a special set of it for the winter just seems utterly pointless.

...And the gear I have is so skin-showing anyhow. Ugh. Maybe all gear should have differing temperature mods? And ways that we can use to convert it from one style to another, instead of it being so difficult to level it up or get new gear?

[Baldrith]

I agree about cold being a bit much. I dread having to take off my current good gear which is loaded with pockets just to deal with surviving the cold. As an Ice Mage, I should have some resistance to cold weather. There is a potion I found on a body that raises my cap to 90 and body temp remaining while in battle, but I can't find that recipe in my alchemy list or on trainers so far.

I wish we had a slot for a nice overcoat we could put on and take off depending on where we are...that would be cool.

[ShieldBreaker]

I have trouble with the cold a little bit, but I don't really feel that it needs to change. Plenty of more content to be added so other level 70 zones and more ways to manage the cold are likely. The orc race is probably going to have little problem with cold from the get go. Dwarf and Fae may also have easier goes.

I focus on collecting Misery Trooper lvl 70 gear which helps. If we take out the challenge, how can we feel like we are making progress. Kur way back use to seem like a frozen hell, hated the place, now it doesn't bother me at all. I expect someday I will say the same thing about Gazluk. :)

[poulter]

I like the idea of cold augments, but am not sure that it would be aligned with the design /ethos of the game and the intended experience.
After all, you don't go walking in winter in northern Canada, Siberia, etc. with your usual moderate clothing - unless you want to die.
As usual, in PG there are consequences to your decisions: if you wear armor more suited to Sun Vale then you can expect to die, or you can equip winter gear and live , but suffer from the cold.

I would also point out that there are plenty of mechanisms for people to use to survive the cold debuff - if they are willing to adapt and evolve.
Being a bit harsh, but it reminds me of Darwinism in reverse - I needed to adapt to survive, but didn't want to do so, so please change the rules /game design.

It is also worth pointing out, that with the required gear, build, buffs, potions, etc. you can become immune to the Kur cold (& even able to ignore the Gazluk debuff). It just takes preparation and planning. There is even a NPC in Kur who will barter with you for cold-weather gear.

However, I think that that NPC is missing a sales opportunity and should relocate his shop to the portal in the south of Kur as he would sell a lot more gear. :)


The point about being forced to experience Kur is well made and it would be nice to have an alternate path /zone, but PG doesn't do 'nice' very well. It would rather kill you, stomp all over your grave and laugh at you (which is part of its' appeal). Perhaps one day we might get something, but for now, you might have to 'learn to adapt' = it is good for the economy and crafters amongst us :)

PG isn't for everyone, but for me surviving in Kur is just another puzzle that has to be overcome in order to progress in the game. I would not like PG to transform into a hand-holding experience along the lines of most cookie-cutter games.

[INXS]

Baldrith if you're using ice magic, you should have ice protection ability you can put on side bar. The cold protection scroll can be found in the red crystal dungeon. I too struggled with the cold until I had enough and crafted a set of winter gear, gotta say was impressed with the resistance it gives, basically winter gear + cold protection potion I'm good for a long time in Kur, Gaz seems stronger cold so I add a orcish thick potion.

[mrwarp]

There are several methods to control cold. If you have the proper supplies you can hunt for hours in the cold with little to no hassle. You don't even need a full suit of winter gear. Potions, meditation, a few emergency fires and one or two pieces of winter gear...usually boots and gloves and you're good to go. Acquiring these items are not difficult.

[Crissa]

Yeah, I generally just use emergency fires and potions of cold prot.

[Daguin]

I was gifted an appropriate cold gear set not even a month into game, and have turned Kur Inn into my home base since then. I don't even use winter gear anymore now that I have a good understanding of where ALL the permanent fires/dwellings/dungeons to shelter from cold are. I have no problem running/flying from any of the main drops to any other locations. Gazluk is a challenge to get around in still since the map is massive, but that is an expected challenge for the highest level area currently in game. If you run fire magic, use cold gear, take advantage of potions, snow raven form, etc. etc. I don't see any reason why you can't reach every available area in game. It may be difficult, and you might not find it "fun", but it really doesn't hinder players past a certain level THAT much....

[Mikhaila]

I actually like the cold/thirst problems. They add a lot of character to the zones.

And frankly, after awhile they just aren't a problem. Cold resist potions, a set of winter gear, and knowing where the camp fires, caves, and yellow crystals are allows you to top off your heat and it goes down very slow.

Gazluk and Kur are also much better zones for resources, which is balanced by a harsher enviroment. Lots of wood, and metals. Lichen worth 200 each. Higher level mushrooms and flowers. Just roaming these zones can be a cashcow. And in Gazluk you have all the glowing yellow crystals for mining. Resources are balanced by the cold.

[Baldrith]

Ah thanks for the advice. I did try using that cold protection, but didn't notice a difference. I will try it again now that it's level 5. I really want to explore Gaz but ya it seems colder there haha....I will try to find that cold protection scroll. I didn't finish the red crystal dungeon yet.

[Crissa]

How could you be considering Kur if you don't know where the red crystal dungeon is? O-o It's level 15.

[Baldrith]

I know where the crystal dungeon is (I make sour cream there)...just not much into dungeons haha...

[Crissa]

Oh. It's super-short. If you get the poison or nature resistance potions, it's basically easy to waltz through at level. Otherwise, you have to make sure you don't get overwhelmed by those slugs.