Hardcore mode and teleportation

[alleryn]

I feel like i may have read something similar recently, but i can't seem to find it. If this is a duplicate thread, please link and accept my apologies.

I tried out hardcore mode yesterday and i really liked it. Having gear damaged really does make it so you don't want to die, as it's an inconvenience to repair it, though quite doable in most situations (and probably almost all situations with help).

However, i've come to depend so much on Enter the Light that i can't really see playing very much in hardcore mode. I'm quite a few levels away from Recall Heart's Home, but even that seems pretty resource-intensive as a replacement.

Having no good way to get around other than dying is a major deterrent to hardcore mode.

To anyone who plays on hardcore mode: how do you deal with this?

To the devs/anyone who want to chime in: is there any consideration to giving hardcore users a free/low-cost teleport to Serbule?

[Easylivin]

Recall Beginnings (Hardcore) (L 0)

[alleryn]

Recall Beginnings (Hardcore) (L 0)

Your point being? This really does very little to help movement around the world in the way Enter the Light does, unless i'm using it wrong.

[tofugunk]

I've played hardcore for about a year now so I might have some helpful insights.

First of all, abuse crates. You can just put all/most of your gear in a crate then enter the light and you'll be fine. Just carry around some mats for the crates and most of your broken gear problems will be fixed while also gaining you some sweet sweet xp in the process. Similarly, you could always just die near/on the teleportation destination for an easy repair. I assume you'll just be going to serb to manage inventory/buy things anyways so you wont need your gear for that. Also, having teleportation WoP's help a lot when you die in the middle of nowhere/dungeon or whatever so thats also another strat you can use.

In my case, I don't bother with any of that fancy stuff i just wrote down and just fly everywhere or abuse my guild tp/regular tp. Most places don't take too long to get to and there's always the ship in Rahu to get me back to Serb.(most of the time)









actually ignore the crates part. just ship your shit into the universal storage and you're homefree.

[alleryn]

A lot of good ideas.

What's universal storage?

I can't fly and my guild doesn't do quests as far as i can tell, so some of those options aren't available to me, but dying on the teleporter isn't bad.

Still don't feel like i have enough options though. Like right now my circle is bound to sun vale. I'm trying to raise favor with some NPCs there to unlock some skills from The_Wombat and others. But i also have things to do in Kur, Ilmari and Rahu. I guess maybe i need to be more centered on one area at a time if i want to do hardcore mode.

Oh well. Maybe i can activate it when i go to do a dungeon for the excitement or something. I just kinda wish i could leave it on, since i get lazy and wish i cared more about dying, but the travel limitations make it feel impractical for me.

[pilotfisherman]

alleryn, I think I have heard universal storage also referred to as council storage. This is the glowing green container with little obelisk things found near Hulon in Serbule, Hogan's Keep, the North West in Kur and near the Meditation pillar in Rahu. Storage crates would also be universal in the same way. The contents are the same regardless of where you interface with that kind of object.

This thread reminds me of a question I asked myself recently. Is it intentional that the portal from Wanda's Sewer into Serbule's Inn is tallied as a teleport when determining which location is assigned to Heart's Home? The button on the portal plainly says Teleport, so I don't know. If it is intentional, is it so that by nature, someone who dies far less often than another who blood-ports frequently, is by default, going to be in a better position to conduct their teleportation habits in a way that maximizes the usefulness of Heart's Home? The way Heart's Home works now, it feels like a throw-away recipe if you are in the habit of blood-porting.

[Easylivin]

sigil scripting

[tofugunk]

IMO having your teleport on somewhere as isolated as sunvale is pretty impractical if you wanna play hardcore mode. It aleady so close to serbule and theres a teleport pad right next to the wombat and all those other peeps to get outta there. Your teleport should be in the furthest zone you have to walk to or somewhere difficult to get to on your own. I, personally have my teleport on the kur inns because of the lack of spawn points near them and because kur is the crossroad between ilmari, guzlak and elti. Theres still a bunch of walking/flying to be done but its cut down by a lot. Having bird form helped me a lot with travel so I recommend you grind for it asap

[alleryn]

Having bird form helped me a lot with travel so I recommend you grind for it asap

Thanks, but not planning to become a druid. Is there another way to unlock bird form?

Don't really want to spend 200 councils every time i want to go back to Sun Vale. I just arrived for the first time so have plenty of work orders there and am trying to donate wooden equipment to the Wombat so i can unlock crude staves and use up the stacks of maple wood that are cluttering my storage, so i'm making a lot of visits.

Edit: w00t! 100th post! :D

[ShubiMaja]

What's the point of playing hardcore if you have a spell that lets you get around easily. If you want to get around easily for a cost you can try using recall stones and lvl 1 words of power (crab + salt) Also at a higher level you will get an additional teleportation save spot.

To those putting their stuff in a box and suiciding: shame on you.

Edit: As mentioned Sigil scripting is a way too. But its unreliable because it can choose a place randomly

Edit: My favorite way to get around is to set my home in Rahu and use the boat to go different places depending on the day (the destination changes)

[alleryn]

The point is that i enjoy having death feel like an incovenience. A lot of times when i'm getting attacked i'll just run to pick up a guava or mushroom rather than try to survive.

To me, the only real downside to hardcore mode is losing out on the most reliable and cost effective teleport in the game.

I think i will try words of power, though i see myself running out of crabs... right now i also depend on them for snack food, as i'm trying to save my guavas for future use.

What's a recall stone?

[tofugunk]

a recall stone is a consumable you can buy in ilmari that allows you to teleport to your 1st tp location from anywhere. They're pretty steep though; I dont remember the exact price, but its a few thousand councils per unit. Now if you can't even pay the 200 per boat ride, then the recall stones are far out of your price range

also, theres no other way to get bird form unless you have a bird potion(which I have no clue where to get and are probably limited)

[alleryn]

a recall stone is a consumable you can buy in ilmari that allows you to teleport to your 1st tp location from anywhere. They're pretty steep though; I dont remember the exact price, but its a few thousand councils per unit. Now if you can't even pay the 200 per boat ride, then the recall stones are far out of your price range

also, theres no other way to get bird form unless you have a bird potion(which I have no clue where to get and are probably limited)

Thanks, i'll trying out the word of power method now. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Thanks everyone for all the advice... there were a lot of methods i hadn't considered, so getting by without EtL (Enter the Light) is starting to seem quite a bit more manageable; thanks again everybody.

Addendum (edit): I'm sure the 200 won't seem so bad after i've raised some faovr, but right now when i go to farm in sun vale for clubs to gift to the Wombat or fairy wings for Agrashab i end up with a lot of stuff no one will pay full price for, so i feel the need to travel back and forth pretty often. I suppose teleporting isn't that much cheaper... a fifth of an amethyst isn't so much different, but at least i gain some tp experience that way, hehe.

[ShubiMaja]

You should also be mindful of the mechanics of the recalll spell. It recalls to the last portal you entered/exited. So you can use it to book mark your location. For example, in Kur I often enter the dungeon in the middle and then exit it just to bookmark that location.

[Niph]

To those putting their stuff in a box and suiciding: shame on you.

We can set our alternate bind to Serbule and port there. Different methods, different cost, same result. What's wrong with that? Would you blame someone that commits suicide and Enter the Light to travel faster? The motive is exactly the same, and Hardcore Mode is not supposed to be a challenge when travelling, but when adventuring in dangerous places (dungeons).

[MorKazim]

You should also be mindful of the mechanics of the recalll spell. It recalls to the last portal you entered/exited. So you can use it to book mark your location. For example, in Kur I often enter the dungeon in the middle and then exit it just to bookmark that location.

Hello, can you please clarify. what recall spell you are referring to? o don't get it...

thanks

[Hood]

He's referring to the Recall Beginnings (Hardcore) spell :D You can learn it at the Hardcore sign in Serbule

[ShubiMaja]

We can set our alternate bind to Serbule and port there. Different methods, different cost, same result. What's wrong with that? Would you blame someone that commits suicide and Enter the Light to travel faster? The motive is exactly the same, and Hardcore Mode is not supposed to be a challenge when travelling, but when adventuring in dangerous places (dungeons).

Tounge in Cheek :P